togophonebook #237 - If you want peace, you should promote the trend of humanity! Humanity reforms have lasted for
#237 - If you want peace, you should promote the trend of humanity! Humanity reforms have lasted for
Luo Fu wasn't just any disciple from the various schools of thought; he had been enlightened by Confucianism, and was even a Confucian disciple himself, only to be expelled from the sect later.
The simple phrase from Han Fei's mouth, "The body of the mind is neither good nor evil; the movement of intention is good or evil," was enough to make people feel the depth of Luo Fu's attainment in Confucianism.
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If he proposed such a seemingly simple topic and answered it himself with Confucian ideals, he would be completely fooled. It might even be said that this was exactly what Luo Fu wanted.
Unfortunately, Fu Nian reacted a little too late, perhaps because of his emphasis on Luo Fu, coupled with the fact that achieving great peace was originally a concept first proposed by Confucianism.
When Luo Fu used achieving great peace as his argument, both Fu Nian and other Confucian disciples overlooked a crucial point: Luo Fu was not a Confucian disciple in the ordinary sense. He was someone who dared to spread the word early on, sweeping through mountain strongholds and bandits, and coming to the Xiaoshengxianzhuang in a high-profile manner to challenge them.
Calming down, Fu Nian's expression suddenly became solemn.
Staring at Luo Fu, Fu Nian said, "Please instruct us, Martial Uncle."
"If one wishes to achieve great peace, I wonder, Martial Nephew, do you think we should model ourselves after the former kings or the later kings?" Luo Fu not only did not answer but instead threw out a second question.
The so-called modeling after the former kings is undoubtedly a Confucian viewpoint, while modeling after the later kings is, in fact, within the scope of Legalist ideology.
Modeling after the former kings is to pursue the Three Dynasties' rule of the ancient times, while modeling after the later kings is to believe that the present must be better than the past, and the future must be better than the present, so we need to model after the later kings.
For Confucianism, this question does not need to be answered at all, because modeling after the former kings is the foundation of Confucianism's pursuit of the Three Dynasties' rule.
But this time, Fu Nian dared not answer casually anymore. In reality, every question from Luo Fu seemed to be digging a pit.
Fu Nian couldn't help but be cautious, careful, and take it seriously.
Seeing Fu Nian's silence, Luo Fu smiled and asked again, "Martial Nephew, how should we interpret ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit?"
The arguments of ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit, actually come from Zhuangzi, but they were absorbed by Zisi's Confucianism and transformed into ironclad arguments to defend the set of ruler-ruler, minister-minister, father-father, and son-son.
Of course, on this point, Confucianism mostly used it to attack Mohism.
After all, Mohism can be regarded as contemporary scientists. Ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit, are now one of the important arguments to belittle Mohism.
And in the future, this concept was further developed by corrupt Confucians, becoming the so-called "strange skills and lewd crafts," sealing off the path of technological development.
Luo Fu's ideology itself is a hodgepodge of the future, packaged with the Neo-Confucianism of Cheng-Zhu and the philosophy of mind of Wang Yangming, with modern Marxist materialism as its core, so he naturally advocates technological progress.
It can be said that whether Luo Fu wins or loses this debate, there are only two results: either the Confucian school holds its nose and re-lists Luo Fu as a member, making him the ninth school within Confucianism, independent of the other eight schools.
In advocating technological progress, Confucianism is not really all holding the same attitude. Among other Confucian schools, there are also some who advocate technological progress.
But within Confucianism, these people are like aliens.
If Luo Fu really raises his own Confucian banner, those Confucian disciples who have previously been belittled and advocate technological progress will inevitably identify themselves with Luo Fu's lineage.
This can also be regarded as the fastest way for Luo Fu to occupy the magpie's nest.
Luo Fu's questions are not aimless.
From achieving great peace, to modeling after the former kings and later kings, to the current argument of ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit, it is completely consistent.
With achieving great peace as the goal, with modeling after the former kings and later kings as the process, and with the technological progress of ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit as the means.
These three questions, perhaps in the eyes of most Confucian disciples, are all arguments specifically used to embarrass people, but people like Xunzi and a few Confucian giants quickly reacted.
Xunzi glanced at the other Confucian giants without showing any emotion. At this moment, Xunzi completely made the decision to pull Luo Fu into Confucianism and let Luo Fu start his own lineage.
It's just that Confucianism is not Xunzi's one-man show after all. Within Confucianism, only Sun's Confucianism will spare no effort to support Xunzi, because Sun's Confucianism itself is represented by Xunzi.
And other schools will obviously not recognize Luo Fu and Xunzi's ideas.
Luo Fu's three consecutive questions left Fu Nian unable to answer for a long time.
As the Mohist giant, Six-Fingered Black Hero, who came to observe the ceremony, was somewhat overjoyed by the great surprise brought by Luo Fu.
Because in the eyes of the Six-Fingered Black Hero, the Mohist giant, Luo Fu is simply too in line with the Mohist ideology.
On the way to Confucianism, he acted like a standard Mohist, and his attitude towards achieving great peace, modeling after the former kings and later kings, and ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit, is even exactly the same as Mohism.
You must know that Mohism's mechanical skills are world-renowned, and perhaps only the Gongshu family can compare with them.
Moreover, the Gongshu family has never won the competition with Mohism for mechanical skills before.
It can be said that mechanical skills are the representative of Mohism.
"Dao Zhi," the Six-Fingered Black Hero looked eagerly at the yellow-haired Dao Zhi beside him and said, "This debate is about to end. After that, you will visit Luo Fu in my name and invite him to a meeting."
The Mohist giant does not actually value qualifications very much.
Otherwise, Prince Dan of Yan would not have plotted to kill the Six-Fingered Black Hero and become the next Mohist giant in the future in the name of the Six-Fingered Black Hero's succession.
Although there were some twists and turns in Prince Dan of Yan's succession to the position of Mohist giant, it went smoothly, which shows that Mohism itself is not so dogmatic in its ideology.
It is not surprising that Dao Zhi, the leader, has such a bold guess.
Even Dao Zhi himself felt that Luo Fu's ideas were indeed perfectly in line with Mohism. What's more, Luo Fu was practicing it. His actions along the way clearly conformed to Mohism, and now, he is perfectly standing on the ideology of Mohism.
After thinking carefully, Dao Zhi himself felt that Luo Fu was very suitable to inherit the identity of the Six-Fingered Black Hero, the Mohist giant.
Thinking this way in his mind, Dao Zhi readily agreed.
And Luo Fu, who was in the middle of the debate, after repeatedly asking Fu Nian and leaving him speechless, also began to peddle his own ideological theories that combined the Neo-Confucianism of Cheng-Zhu, the philosophy of mind of Wang Yangming, and modern Marxist materialism.
It has to be admitted that although Luo Fu's theory is a product of a hodgepodge, it combines the wisdom of thousands of years, is logically self-consistent, and gives many people a sense of feasibility.
Especially Luo Fu, starting from the ancient slash-and-burn cultivation, expounded how much impact the so-called technological development of ingenious devices and elaborate ornaments, cunning minds and clever deceit, has had on human civilization.
Regarding Luo Fu's approach of starting to peddle his theories, the various schools of thought present, and even the Confucian school itself, the host, were also obediently listening quietly.
This debate is not just as simple as one day.
Instead, it will last for several days. The first debate is just to take the lead, and since the various schools of thought created this way of debating, the way of selling their own theories and ideas through debate has been recognized by the world.
Of course, this is the privilege of the winner, and today, without a doubt, Luo Fu is the winner.
For Confucianism, the unfavorable first battle is not something to be concerned about.
At worst, in the subsequent debates, they can seize the flaws in Luo Fu's theory and pursue them fiercely. Letting Luo Fu peddle his ideas is also a necessary way to find flaws in his theory.
After all, if you want to find the other party's flaws, you must first understand the other party.
And now, for Confucianism, their understanding of Luo Fu is only a few words of superficial knowledge.
"Sister, this guy really has a way," Yue Shen glanced at the original debate, which has now become Luo Fu's solo show, as if he is preaching and teaching to the various schools of thought and envoys of various countries present. Yue Shen couldn't help but show a few surprised expressions.
Compared to Yue Shen's disapproval of Luo Fu, Dongjun Yan Fei really began to listen to the principles sold by Luo Fu.
That perfectly self-consistent logic, from ancient times, has been expounding the evolution of human civilization to the present.
Standing tall and commanding, like leaping out of the long river of time, overlooking the changes in the world, it really broadened Dongjun Yan Fei's horizons, and unconsciously, she developed a bit of yearning for Luo Fu that she herself had not even noticed.
"Shut up," Dongjun Yan Fei scolded Yue Shen and said, "Mr. Luo Fu is now talking about the supreme truth of heaven and man, how can you be so disrespectful?"
Yue Shen was immediately stunned.
In her opinion, what Luo Fu said was not very attractive. In Yue Shen's eyes, compared to the principles Luo Fu is talking about now, Luo Fu's own strength is more important to her.
As the principles Luo Fu talked about became deeper and deeper, from the development of productivity, causing the evolution of production relations, the various schools of thought and envoys of various countries present were all listening thoughtfully.
Soon, after Luo Fu finished talking about the outline of this theory and idea.
A Taoist disciple stood up, bowed to Luo Fu, and said, "Mu Xu of the Taoist Ren Sect, I have met Mr. Luo Fu!"
After saluting, this Taoist Ren Sect disciple who called himself Mu Xu said, "What Mr. said, the development of skills will make people's hearts not ancient and the world in chaos. Now, the five hundred years of war are the stage of rapid development of skills, from… from the Bronze Age to the Iron Age. If so, why don't we stop the development of skills? Wouldn't it be possible to return to the rule of the ancient times?"
The so-called skill is a name temporarily given to the development of technology by Luo Fu. After all, in the current era, he can't directly call it the name of productivity, can he?
At least, at this stage, Luo Fu is not yet able to name the development of technology with his academic status.
Luo Fu was not in a hurry to answer Mu Xu's question, and he also recognized Mu Xu's identity.
Right now, the other party is just a disciple of the Taoist Ren Sect, but after the Great Qin unifies the world in the future, this Mu Xu will become the Elder Mu Xuzi of the Taoist Ren Sect in one leap, and he is also someone who opposes the Ren Sect's head, Xiaoyaozi.
After pausing to give everyone present some time, Luo Fu calmly explained, "What you say does have some merit, but doing so would be the same as allowing our Yan Huang descendants to willingly degenerate, returning to a time of raw meat and blood, with everything from clothing to food, shelter, and transportation reverting to ancient times. Abandoning luxurious clothing, from royals and nobles down to commoners, all would be the same. Eating raw meat and drinking blood, living in caves and nests, abandoning animal-powered carts and carriages, would you be willing to do that?"
Mu Xu was momentarily speechless. After hesitating for a moment, he braced himself and said, "If it could restore the governance of ancient times, then… then I would be willing."
Mu Xu's words instantly caused an uproar among the crowd.
He was willing, but others were not.
Especially those royals and nobles. Wasn't it good to enjoy wealth and glory? Why abandon all technological advancements to pursue some return to ancient times!
"This is the human heart," Luo Fu said with a smile. After waiting for the surroundings to quiet down again, he said, "Your Excellency Mu Xu, as a disciple of the Daoist school, you should know the principle that when everyone knows beauty as beauty, then ugliness exists; when everyone knows goodness as goodness, then evil exists, right?"
How could he not understand? This was a famous saying from the Daoist patriarch Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching.
Regardless of whether it was the Humanist or Naturalist Daoist schools, although they had been split for many years, in fact, the problem lay in their own philosophies. The foundation had not been shaken, unlike the Yin Yang school, which had even changed the foundation of Daoism.
After receiving Mu Xu's affirmative answer, Luo Fu said, "Our Yan Huang descendants have gone through thousands of years of vicissitudes to achieve today's accomplishments. You, merely for the sake of returning to the governance of ancient times, actually want to abandon thousands of years of seeking the Great Dao. This is not good, even an enemy of humanity, a beast."
In an instant, Mu Xu was speechless from the scolding.
Although he had stubbornly said just now that he was willing to give up everything he had now and return to ancient times, Mu Xu himself knew that even he himself was unwilling, let alone wanting the entire world to abandon all development and return to an era of raw meat and blood.
In a daze, Mu Xu was somewhat tearful.
He said with disappointment, "If so, wouldn't people's hearts become even more degenerate, and the governance of ancient times would never reappear?"
Mu Xu's words struck a chord in the hearts of everyone from the Hundred Schools of Thought present.
Leaving aside those nobles and envoys from various states, most of the people from the Hundred Schools of Thought, with the exception of a very few, were truly constantly seeking the future.
Even for the sake of their ideals and the Great Dao in their hearts, the successors of the Hundred Schools of Thought did not hesitate to sacrifice themselves.
But according to Luo Fu's theory, human selfishness would inevitably decline with the development of technology. People's hearts would become degenerate, and they would only become more and more distant from the governance of ancient times.
The ideals in countless people's hearts would only become farther and farther away as time passed.
This could not help but make everyone present sigh and even redden their eyes.
Even Luo Fu himself, the instigator, couldn't help but recall the moral decline before his transmigration.
It seemed that as time passed, the bottom line of morality was indeed constantly lowered with the development of productivity.
Human hearts are selfish, and there is no way to recover!
For some reason, Luo Fu thought of the Super God Universe.
At this moment, he suddenly had an understanding that the angels' justice order and the Lieyang's peace and prosperity were probably because they had seen this situation, so they used strict rules to restrain people's hearts, right?
Unexpectedly, the casual remarks in the shared space before were now really going to come true.
Before, when he first entered the shared space, Luo Fu had jokingly said to himself from other worlds that if he established a system of learning, then that rich second generation from Super God could completely copy his achievements and establish his own order.
At this time, Luo Fu realized that the previous joke might really become a reality in the future.
For some reason, Luo Fu's mind recalled a passage he had seen somewhere before transmigration.
The development of human history, every change, only has two choices, one bad, and one not so bad.
In this case, the not-so-bad choice becomes the only one.
Luo Fu before transmigration had seen a lot of remarks demeaning Confucianism. Indeed, Confucianism had a lot of problems, but it was undeniable that Confucianism did establish a complete moral system.
The best way to destroy the Confucian moral system is to replace it with a brand-new moral system, but once the Confucian moral system is destroyed without establishing a new system, it is a disaster.
Moral decline comes from this.
And now, Luo Fu was going to use the skin of Confucianism to fill in his own ideas, and from the current hodgepodge of rough integration of Cheng-Zhu Neo-Confucianism, Yangming's Philosophy of Mind, and modern Marxist-Leninist materialism, sort out a new order like the Super God Universe's justice order and the Lieyang's peace and prosperity.
Thinking of this, Luo Fu instantly perked up and said with a somewhat bewitching tone, "People's hearts are degenerate, so we should greatly promote education. At the beginning of human beings, there is no good or evil. Good and evil are not the principles of heaven, but the way of man. There is no good or evil in the body of the heart, and there is good and evil in the movement of the mind. Knowing good and knowing evil is conscience, and doing good and eliminating evil is investigating things. Doing education alone can restrain people's hearts, but it cannot achieve peace. If you want to achieve peace, you should promote the general trend of humanism! The change of humanism must go through three generations."
"May I ask, sir, what are the three generations?" Mu Xu asked Luo Fu with red eyes.
It had to be admitted that Luo Fu's theory, on the premise of logical self-consistency, did indeed make many disciples of the Hundred Schools of Thought feel desperate.
I don't know how many people's pursuits have been destroyed by Luo Fu's ideas.
And now, it was a good time for Luo Fu to quickly raise the banner, consolidate his own school of thought, and recruit people's hearts.
Once Luo Fu completed this process, what Confucianism could do was either obediently recognize Luo Fu as the orthodox Confucian, the young grandmaster of Confucianism.
Or, Luo Fu could simply create his own school of thought like Mo Di did in the past, and incorporate the Gongyang School into it.
In fact, Luo Fu's series of logical deductions, even in this world with fantasy martial arts, did not have any flaws.
After all, this was a truth that had been tested for more than two thousand years.
After receiving Luo Fu's affirmative answer that the troubled times were coming to an end, everyone quickly looked forward to the Prosperous Age and the Age of Great Peace in Luo Fu's theory.
Luo Fu had planned to use the Three Ages Theory as a gimmick to gather people's hearts, so of course he would not keep people in suspense on this issue.
Moreover, his Three Ages Theory was clearly putting the development stages of modern Marxism-Leninism into it.
Unlike Confucius and Mencius, and even Xunzi and others present, these Confucian and even Hundred Schools of Thought sages all had a vision for achieving peace.
But in Luo Fu's eyes, these visions were too childish.
In fact, the Hundred Schools of Thought were now in a dilemma. From the Spring and Autumn Period, the contention of a hundred schools of thought had already sprouted. After hundreds of years of contention, the world was still chaotic.
And Luo Fu was going to give the Hundred Schools of Thought a theory that could lead to peace and was feasible.
"The Prosperous Age is the Xiaokang governance of Mencius. At the beginning of the Prosperous Age, five acres of land should be planted with mulberry trees, so that those who are fifty years old can wear silk; livestock such as chickens, pigs, dogs, and pigs should not miss their time, so that those who are seventy years old can eat meat; one hundred acres of land should not be taken away from their time, so that families with several mouths can be free from hunger; carefully teach in the schools and order, and reiterate the meaning of filial piety, so that the gray-haired will not carry burdens on the road, and those who are seventy years old will wear silk and eat meat, and the people will not be hungry or cold, but if they do not become kings, there has never been such a thing."
This passage was Luo Fu directly reciting Mencius' original text.
This was also a vision that everyone in Confucianism and even the Hundred Schools of Thought knew.
But it was undeniable that even now, this vision was still far away, and even only existed in the vision of Confucianism and the Hundred Schools of Thought.
Luo Fu's theory was too beautiful, so beautiful that even the Confucian disciples who had been eyeing Luo Fu before, full of hostility, were now listening with excitement and joy.
Fu Nian, the head of the Confucian school who had just been speechless in Luo Fu's debate, couldn't wait to say: "What about after the Prosperous Age?"
"In the Prosperous Age, it should be as Lao Tzu said, the ultimate in governance, chickens and dogs can be heard from each other, and the people will not interact with each other until they die!"